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Posts: 6539 (07/01/07 04:00:08) SFUK Messiah |
Quote: lol, feel free to drop me a line with any memories/pics to sfuk_staff@hotmail.com Do you have contact details for any of the original lue belts i don't (Pat B, Jani, Shaun, Chris K)? |
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 04:31:13) |
Who were the first Blue Belts in the U.K.?
Who was the first London Blue Belt from Mo? Who was the first Chen Blue Belt? Who was the first Purple Belt? (I think Jude........) Who were the first to leave Chen and go to Mo when he arrived in London? Was Chenzinho proud of his name? |
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Posts: 41 (07/01/07 04:44:13) |
I trained at the old libarary with Mauricio, back before it went to the custard factory, I went once a week on a Wednesday afternoon and then went home and tried to drill with friends the rest of the week.There was lots of guys training twice a day five days a week.
I can remember some names Ross, Dave, Krishna, but not many surnames. Can anyone remember the Brasilians Juliano and Maurice Cortey? |
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Posts: 28 (07/01/07 04:47:55) |
First guys from ooop North who I recall were -
Andy Williams in Huddersfield an Anaconda affilaite, now Nova Vida. Went to one of his classes in a school in hudd in 2000. Lol at the yellow and orange belts. Ben Poppleton who had a class in a weighlifting gym. I rolled with Neil owen who was white at the time. At least I think it was him. Did he have to retire from Ruby with a bad knee? Also trained with them at Doncaster judo club. Steve Gawthorpe turned up (Olympic level judoka) he mauled everyone and I was told GJJ could mash judo  Clay Lane Jits were pretty old. Andy Roberts and Ross Pettfer teaching in a blck belt academy in Sheffield |
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Posts: 1667 (07/01/07 04:48:18) SFUK member |
I think the first blue belt were Chenzinho and Jude maybe?
I remember started here in uk the bjj in august 2000 after i came back from rio and went to the 2nd (?) bjj competition organized by Chen (many competitors, from Sweden etc as well as Lee Hasdell, Remco Pardoel, maybe Rick Young ?) at the anaconda budokway Chenzinho was there with the blue and Jude was already with Gracie Barra I think and after few weeks Chenzinho also moved to GB Club . |
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Posts: 28 (07/01/07 04:50:57) |
what does 'Chenzinho' mean?
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 04:51:47) |
Little Chen
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J Sho |
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Posts: 6539 (07/01/07 04:59:02) SFUK Messiah |
Porra, need Jude, Chenzino, Asif or Shaun to get on this thread.
Discounting Roger Brooking, wouldn't Scott Goddard have been a purple belt before Jude? Who were all the Chen blue belts, I know some guys gave them up when training with Wilson and Mo etc and some didn't but effectively got them 'confirmed by the new instructors (Perhaps Wallid, Jude, Kevin and some others)? - First Black Belt? - First Brown Belt? - First Purple Belt? - First Chen Blue Belt? - First Mo Blue Belt? - First Chen yellow belt? - First major tournament medallist? Jude and Roger Brooking medalled at the 2003 pan ams and Rick Young medalled at the 2003 Masters in 2003 - anyone before that? |
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 04:59:55) |
Luca-It is great to see you on this thread.For me you were one of the main people that really worked hard to make UK. BJJ what it is today-
Are there any other stories you can tell? Who were all the guys at chens when you arrived there? how did you find out about bjj? |
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Posts: 1722 (07/01/07 05:03:41) Carl |
Holy @#%$!!!
That's a verey old photo of me didnt even know it existed Jon, please mail it to me!! 1998 - John Machado seminar in Hull at Andy Normans that's where it started for me; trained there and got invited to LA and ended training at John and Rigans place, met Scott Goddard out there, made really good friends with Chris Haueter, met Ricco R (purple belt then) JJ, Erik Paulson, Dan Inosanto, Dog Brothers, John Will and hundreds of others. Came back to UK and ended training with just about everyone, Darren Currie, Darren Good, Ben Pops, Brum lot London Massive and all points in between  To chronicle the history would be a massive undertaking and I think would need a few people on it to get interviews and archive photos etc in order to try and get everyone involved - would make an excellent book! Fp Team Lagarto Bolton(Home of the Purple Poodle) - sponsored by www.evolutionfightwear.com
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Posts: 1667 (07/01/07 05:04:02) SFUK member |
HELLO SIMON!
The first name after Chen left and we decided to change name was BJJ LONDON TEAM , after then we took the name Carlson Gracie. The first contact in order to get the name (being me in Rio at Carlson and Wilson from Carlson) was Jeff Neal from Carlson Gracie Team Chicago which was friend of Carlson Jr and student under Carlson Sr. He came to London and give some demo at the Albany Hotel where we had our first full time head quarter (when we left the budokway). at that time Wilson was in Brazil training with his brown belt. So I could say that at that time we were kind of prospect After a further introduction trought Prof Solari (previous Wilson Instructor) we finally had the name so Carlson Gracie Team London finally has born. HOW THE NAME 302 CAME ACROSS: on the internet we had many people tryng to put down our name and our place (at that time, the basement at torquay street, the FIRST REAL FULL TIME MMA BJJ GYM IN UK I GUESS),we ve been called names and then we started to think about a code name which could identify us in a kind of "secret way". On the book about the Gracie Family someone  noticed the 302 nr at the entrance of the Carlson Academy so we took the number as our brand and mark.we were the 302 Team! You said 302 and you meant Carlson Crew London. The boiler room was because some people kept telling on the net we were nothing else then a BOILER ROOMso someone thought to use the name in a positive way anso we went to do a blog (thanks to our andrea picchi 302 brother from livorno) called 302STYLE: WELCOME TO THE BOILER ROOM with the picture from the BOILER ROOM film, with the carachters clapping their hands, I think this was so brlliant.... (to be contintued..) |
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Posts: 1722 (07/01/07 05:06:32) Carl |
Regards Scott G
He came out to LA in June/July 99 and got his blue belt within about a month but cant recall when he got his purple belt. Fp Team Lagarto Bolton(Home of the Purple Poodle) - sponsored by www.evolutionfightwear.com
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 05:08:05) |
When Wilson and Luca started BJJ LONDON TEAM
Wilson asked everyone to line up on the first day.He then told everyone with a Yellow,Orange or Green Belt to to take off their belts and put them on the floor.He then handed everyone a white belt. Anyone with a Blue Belt was allowed to keep it-He recognised the Blue. I think it was only Luca and Wallid who had a Blue! You could see the disapointment on the faces of these guys taking off their belts that they had fought for in Chen's gradings.Also remember there were three stripes on every belt and each grading cost 50 so some of these guys were throwing away their money as well when they removed those belts. It was for the best though. Wilson said on that day,"From now on we train as if we were in Rio" and that was always Luca and Wilson's aim-to teach BJJ as if they were in Carlsons in Rio. |
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Posts: 1667 (07/01/07 05:20:36) SFUK member |
obviously Simon knows very well what I wrote as he one of the oldest from the budokway....
now some bit and pieces: I have a video (somewhere hopefully)from a seminar at the budokway top floor , it was featuring a guy from S Paolo, black belt and friend of Chen, I f not wrong on the video you can spot with his blue belt Sheik Tanoon (??) I think at that time Sheik Tanoon used to train in London also with Londonshoot... After this seminar Chen organized a seminar with Mestre de Oliveira, an old guy (about 65 yrs of age) from Brasil Rio, he brought him from Rio straigth to London and for him was the first trip away from home, the guy was old style, he was showing some BJJ and Vale Tudo things. I think Chen had also a strong Luta Livre background. You could notice that with his leglocks etc. How did I started in bjj....came from judo muay thai background and back from brasil in 1998 I was looking for some vale tudo here in uk, I didnt know that much, In brasil i was just to see a bjj gym in barra da tijuca (not the GB but it was someonelse brother from carlson). I used to hang out in rio with a band called Central do Brasil (based in niteroi) going to concerts and football matches and they gave me a T shirt from Carlson Academy. When I came back to London went to budoway after i spoke to Chen but when I saw the training going on with the gi I didndt want to start what I thought it was kind of judo..I was a bit confused, for me the jiu jitsu was the japanese one. after 2 yrs and going to and back from Rio finally I decided to try at Carlson (I didnt know who really he was, I just had the Shirt given by my friends). I spoke to Mestre Flexha and then I started. ps yes I had the blue belt from Chen |
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 05:21:59) |
Great points from Luca-
I agree about Chen and his Leg Locks-He had A LOT of them to teach-some VERY VERY good ones.Wallid still knows them all! Very interesting about the sheik and mestre olivie-This was before i joined. The troll Nial Dixon came on the internet and said our dojo was nothing more than a Boiler Room.Well,we all thought he had a good point-so from that moment our dojo was called THE BOILER ROOM. Luca set up both the ALBANY HOTEL,our first dojo and then THE BOILER ROOM @Torquay St,Royal Oak. Anyone who trained at these places should post their memories please! The name 302 was Luca's idea The number on the door of Carlson's academy in Rio. Anyone who has the book "The Gracie Way" can see that number on the door on the picture in the Carlson chapter. 302 rules OK 
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J Sho |
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Posts: 6539 (07/01/07 05:23:11) SFUK Messiah |
This sites has some pretty old school pics and stuff.
home.freeuk.net/cleansed/nhbindex.html home.freeuk.net/cleansed/nhbpics.html |
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Posts: 1667 (07/01/07 05:33:53) SFUK member |
J Sho do you knwo how we can get back from the internet secret dimension the page of bjjlondonteam please? it was on spaziowind etc.....
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J Sho |
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Posts: 6539 (07/01/07 05:50:42) SFUK Messiah |
Was on spazioinwind.libero.it/bjj/index.html and also get.to/bjj?
Looks like it is still at this address (is this the one you were thinking of)? www.angelfire.com/amiga2/.../index.htm A lot of old school pictures of you guys here: www.angelfire.com/amiga2/...htgall.htm like this one 
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Posts: 1469 (07/01/07 05:57:56) |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Luca Menagacci and Carlson Gracie at The Boiler Room. OOOOOOSSSSSSSSS CARLSON GRAAAACIEEEEEE ! |
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J Sho |
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Posts: 6539 (07/01/07 06:11:22) SFUK Messiah |
Other old (or old archived versions) of UK BJJ sites:
web.archive.org/web/20030...bjj.co.uk/ www.brazilianrealfight.co.uk/ web.archive.org/web/20040...t/bjj.html web.archive.org/web/20040...firms.com/ web.archive.org/web/20030...ida.co.uk/ (aka Anaconda Huddersfield) |
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